FmFreaks

Hvornår kommer den patch? Der er blevet snakket om den siden spillet nærmest udkom, men hvorfor er den ikke kommet? Og nogen der ved præcis hvornår den kommer?

jeg går ud fra at det er patch 8.1.0 du mener, det 8.0.1 er betapatchen som er udkommet
men den kommer når sigames engang har fået rettet alle de fejl som de mener de skal rette og har gennemtestet den 100%

Næh..  den kommer til at hedde 8.0.1


Til FM07 hed den sidste patch 7.0.2 :P

hmm..
mener bare at have læst et eller andet sted. kan selvfølgelig ikke huske hvor, at den endelige patch ville hedde 8.1.0
men hvad faen. uanset hvad, så kommer den nok først engang i december når de har nosset sig sammen.

Ja - jeg venter også spændt .....

jeg foreslår at de skipper næste års udgave og starter med at lave 2010 versionen nu, så kan det være at når den engang udkommer at der INGEN fejl er med :D

Fantastisk idé :)  Jeg synes også at det er lidt dårligt med alle de fejl der er i spillet...

jeg forstår bare ikke at det er det samme hvert eneste år. det er sgu et eller andet sted lidt træls.

Lige en hurtig update på patchen. PoulC fra SI (er ansvarlig for FM) skrev i fredags på deres forum: "ETA on the patch is sometimes next week or so..."

Ja selvfølgelig er det træls, men de kan jo ikke lave et spil helt uden fejl.. patchen er der for at rette op på de forskellige ting.. de laver jo ikke fejl bare for at irritere os..

nej men der må da også være grænser med de fejl  ;D

Nu ved jeg lidt om hvordan sådan noget foregår, og kan derfor udtale mig om hvordan softwareverdenen foregår.

Da udviklerne smed FM08 på gaden tør jeg vædde med at de kendte samtlige fejl, de har sikkert brokket sig til de højere lag osv osv. Men hvorfor udgiver de så? Fordi det bliver gennemtvunget. Det bliver gennemtvunget at man ikke skal udskyde, og udgive fejlfrit. Det er ikke nogen åben strategi, men det er noget af det der sker under bordet, på de høje herres kontorer. De ved godt de udgiver noget med fejl, og gør det med vilje. De ved de godt kunne vente helt til 20. november for at komme i julehandlen, men de undlader at vente.
HVORFOR!?
For at sige det enkelt. Det handler om længst mulig hype. Forummerne er ekstatiske når det udkommer, men så kommer brokkerierne og "Det starter først ved første patch". Ved den patch, så er der hype endnu engang. Det en del af forklaringen.

En anden del er at ingen gider udgive og eje noget fejlfrit - det kan man jo ikke tjene penge på? Man kan ikke tjene penge på at sælge noget hvorefter det så er ude af verden. Men derimod, hvis man tvinger brugeren til at komme på ens hjemmeside, og downloade patch'es, ja så virker det næsten som et abonnement.

Interessant indlæg.! Hvis det altså er 100% sandt  :)

Njandersen - Altså, jeg arbejder hverken for SI games eller noget andet. Jeg er ikke myndig, så skal ikke gøre mig til nogen større "sandhed" end jeg er. Men jeg er ikke i tvivl om at det kan forholde sig sådan, og jeg kender folk i branchen. Jeg har brugt tid på det, for jeg synes sådan noget er meget interessant.

Så der er da sikkert steder der 100% vil have noget ordentligt, f.eks genie scout - kan ikke se hans interesse i fejl. Men altså, store kommercielle firmaer - som SI - er jeg sikker på har de ting jeg skriver i deres overvejelser.

For det første er jeg 100% sikker på, at SI ikke kendte samtlige fejl. De har været klar over nogle mindre "issues", som man kunne leve med, men hovedparten af de store fejl er først blevet opdaget, da 50000+ frådende fans har kastet sig over spillet. Når er program er så komplekst som FM, så kan man simpelthen ikke finde alle fejl. Derfor releaser man produktet, afventer resultatet af brugernes "test" og retter de værste fejl i patches.

Det er også noget vrøvl, at ingen gider udgive noget fejlfrit. Den optimale situation for SI ville være at have det perfekte produkt, og så bare læne sig tilbage og score kassen på at udgive årlige dataupdates.

Din bekendte i branchen må enten være underinformeret, demotiveret eller arbejde i et eksistenstruet firma, hvis han har sagt, hvad du skriver.

Jeg har selv arbejdet med softwareudvikling på alle niveauer i snart 20 år, og jeg kan forsikre dig for, at kvalitet er et nøgleord for at overleve i branchen.

Så lader det da til, at den er på vej: (Citatet nedenfor blev udsendt i går)

Super...  Det bliver dejligt når den kommer ud.

nogen der ved om den kommer idag? eller hvornår den kommer?

hvis alt går som det skal, så skulle den gerne komme ud senere på aftenen...men det betyder nok midnat...kunne jeg forestille mig...

Det er så vigtigt! Håber der er nogle utålmodige freaks som prøver det i nat eller i morgen tidlig så vi andre kan læse om det i morgen!  :P

Thanksgiving, 3 football kampe og omsider en patch til FM.... det bliver en FED aften/nat i morgen  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Og hvis Genie så også lige på magisk vis dukker op i morgen, så bliver det da intet mindre end perfekt ;)

Nyt fra SI:



EDIT: HAHA!.. Så lige det også er på forsiden  ;D

Ja, så blev det heller ikke d. 21. november den kom :(

mon det bliver d. 22 november... sikkert ikke  :f:

@ naRf  Du skal lige regne med, at de sidder i England og er en time efter os, så de har stadig 20 + minutter ;)

Så er den ude som torrent. Tjek sigames forum
http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/521102691/m/3982067063/p/36

Hvad gør den patch egentlig, helt præcist ?

Retter fejl.

Så langt er jeg med.. :P Men hvilke fejl retter de ? Kommer der en ReadMe-fil hvor det står i, f.eks. ?

Spørg mig ikke. Men, sådanne fejl som offside, et par spillerhandler, gule og røde kort.

Ja, og den er på ikke mindre end 15 sider...

øffern...

hvor er det nu man skal smide pathcen hen? i under programmet i C drevet eller under dokumenter???

du skal bare installere den, så bør det virke

jeps, det kan jeg se. dejligt.

Så skal man bare have fundet sig et hold og starte et post patch hold med...

det er bare nice det her... så skal der games for vildt :-)

De har så igen glemt at tilføje Juventus og Barcelona's stadionskifter >:( Og Adam Pearson mangler i Derby som chairman. :(

Er der nogle der har hentet patch'en og spillet med den ?? Ku godt tænke mig nogle reaktioner på hvordan det fungerer, hvad der er ændret, osv ??

Findes der en patch til mac? Ved i det?

Har fundet ud af det.. :)

Nogend er så ved hvordan jeg åbner en Torrent fil?

Har lige et spørgsmål.
Jeg har siddet og brugt lang tid på at lave min egen opdaterring over den db der er der i forvejen.
Så mit spørgsmål er om jeg på en eller anden måde kan flytte min egen patch over så den kører over Patch 8.0.1?
Altså uden jeg skal bruge 1 time. (eller der omkring)

Håber på der er nogle der kan hjælpe.

:)

Prøv at hente den her i stedet...
http://www.fmfreaks.dk/index.php?action=download;gid=1;id=7

Har lige installeret den nye patch - og har tabt den første kamp med Brøndby mod FCM med 10-0... hmmm! Collins scorede 7 gange og alle mine spillere fik mellem 1-3 i karakter..

Det kan jo være at det bare er mig der spiller dårligt - men en helt alm. 4-4-2 med lidt defensiv tankegang bør vel ikke give en sådan øretæve.. man kan vel ikke fortænke mig i at have lidt nervøse anelser i forhold til en MEGA bug i den nye patch...

Har I andre lignende resultater???

Uha da da - det lyder sgu ikke godt....

Frygter det værste  :(

Hvis du bruger mac, så kig efter Tomato torrent ;)

Den er ik god , venter med at downloade den til der er nogle flere reaktioner  :)

Du skal bruge et specielt program, der kan downloade ved hjælp af torrents..
Eks: www.bitcomet.com (http://www.bitcomet.com) eller www.bittorrent.com (http://www.bittorrent.com)

Det eneste anderledes jeg har opdaget er, at man nemmere scorer mål. Har spillet 5 kampe siden jeg hentede den, med målscoren 17-10.

Er den save-game kompitabel?

behøver man at starte nyt med det nye patch? eller kan man godt spille videre efter man har installeret det?:)

Du kan godt spille videre på dine gamle spil.

men den kører videre på det nye patch ike?  ::)

Jo jo  :)

okk taaak:)

hvordan kan man se om patchen er installeret? (har instaleret den så vidt jeg ved)

Når du starter et nyt spil spørg den efter hvilken version. (originalen eller 8.0.1) Mener også det står i hjørnet på startsiden inde i spillet

Hold da kæft, hvor er det dejligt med rating rettelserne.
Hverken for lave eller for høje - super!

Ja, rating rettelserne var meget til trængt! En spiller skulle vel score hattrick for at spille til 9 og score 4 mål eller derover for 10. Samtidigt kunne forsvarsspillere ikke spille over 7 selvom de vandt samtlige hovedstødsdueller, opsnappede 1000 bolde og afleverede 80 % af pasningerne rigtigt. De skulle score et mål for at spille over.

Det var meget tiltrængt!

har I ingen problemer med den der "closing down" bug??

jeg sys bare det lyder skræmmende med de store resultater? :)
men på den anden side vandt jeg også 7-0 over Bayern med Dortmund inden patchen så :D?

Nej.. den blev rettet allerede i beta patchen, og er da helt sikkert også rettet her i den rigtige patch :) Nu har jeg spillet et par måneder med Barca med den nye patch og den største sejr var 4-0 over Sparta Prag og største nederlag 0-2 til Valencia, så jeg har slet ikke set noget til de højre cifre :D

hmm... den lukker ned ret tit! kan det være fordi jeg spiller videre på et spil som jeg havde inden jeg havde installeret den nye patch?? sorry hvis det er dumme spørgsmål...

Hvis du klikker på "Valgmuligheder" og vælger "Spilstatus" kan du se hvilken version du har  :P

Prøv at starte et nyt spil op, og se om den så stadig lukker ned...

I min første kamp med brøndby så jeg et stort resultat cifre. Tabte 7-1 til FCK med brøndby Kæft det var nedern.  :t: :'(

Så virker patchen.. det er da realistisk.. O0 he he.. i parken eller på brøndby stadion..?

skal man egentlig også lægge real name fix, filen ind igen efter patchen er installeret?

Brøndby Stadion

Bare vent til den 2. december  >:D  :P

har spillet en kamp den 16 februar, hvor vejret i Danmark (Aalborg) var "sunny" og ikke mindst "21 degrees celsius"...

man burde sgu bo i FM verdenen istedet for kuldehelvede fra virkeligheden.

Og til de fc fans som ikke ved hvad der sker der... Så kommer Vestegnen på besøg !  >:D

Ja det bliver så godt den 2. december. HAha Glæder mig helt vildt.

Hva sker der, der?

Edit: har lige læst at der er FCK-BIF..  ;) holder dog ikke med nogen af holdene, men det bliver sikkert en fed kamp O0

Jeg kan konstatere efter mit spil, at der stadig er lige så meget galt som da det blev udgivet, konstante dommer fejl og mål annulleringer, og at modstanderen absolut skal vinde.

er der en der er negativ over at han ikke har fundet en taktik han kan vinde med?

Meget muligt taktikken er dårlig. Men hvis jeg stiller op med real madrid og stadig kan tabe til et viasatsport hold så er det sku ikke taktikken den er gal med.

Mange tak  O0

Jamen det er da så lidt :)

Der står listen over ændringer fylder 15 sider i Word... Kan man evt. komme til at se den liste et eller andet sted? Jeg er nemlig ikke stødt på særlig mange "fejl" uden patchen, så det ville være rart at se, hvad der er udbedret med patchen?

Du kan finde listen i din 801 mappe. Den hedder vist nok changelist...

Jeg ved ikke om det har været nævnt før, men er patch 8.0.1 save-game compertibel hvis man opgraderer fra 8.0.0 uden beta patches??

Det troede jeg også, men næste problem er så, at der ikke er nogen '801' nogen steder? Den burde da ligge i db ved siden af '800', ikk??

Jo, det skule man umiddelbart tro, men det gør den ikke. Kan ikke lige huske hvor den ligger, men brug søgefunktionen og søg efter 801, så dukker den frem...

Så skete der noget!! Tak, tak! Havde ikk' lige overvejet at søge efter den... :)

Den ligger i Programmer/SI/FM08/data/updates

Edit: ... Men kan stadig ikke finde changelist-filen??

/C: > programmer > sports interactive > football manager 08 > og så ligger den der. den hedder changelist.

hvad er der nyt ved den patch?

General
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- Supporter spokesperson´s nationalities match up to their city of birth.
- Team-mates will no longer dislike each other for seemingly no reason.
- Reduced incidents of players having "Worried by lack of discipline" unhappiness.
- Players more likely to be unhappy at being harshly fined.
- News is now sent to the human if a reserve team friendly he has arranged is rejected.
- Supporter Spokespersons don´t respond to job adverts anymore.
- ´Reject all offers´ holiday instruction now works for draft pick transfer offers.
- Players do not gain a year of nation eligibility if they are returned from loan early.
- Players do not gain extra days of nation eligibility to their main team’s nation when returning from loan.
- Slight limits on morale of players who haven’t been at clubs very long.
- Non-EU Under 18 players can now move within EU countries if they are already in a EU country.
- Improved the code which chooses ethnicity of players with dual nationalities.
- Lowered abilities of virtual players in reserve teams.
- Stopped exploit which allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at once.
- Fixed "Ends with" Favourites filter on player staff search returning erroneous results.
- Stop recently retired players becoming part of consortiums in club takeovers at too young an age.
- Can now fine players for unprofessional behaviour / sending off again within the period of their last fine.
- Stopped cheat that allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at one time.
- For fixtures at neutral venues, sometimes the match odds would be swapped between the 2 teams.
- Made morale slightly lower for attacking players who are on a goal drought.
- Fixed the issue of too many players with just first name as common name (for example Portugal).
- Adjusted the non-playing attribute distribution for newgen non-players.
- Adjusted the starting ability and development of non-playing staff.
- Stopped players from occasionally disliking themselves.
- Tweaked Feeder Clubs selection (including reducing Irish feeders for British teams).
- Fixed expansions to stadium capacity being reverted when loading a saved game.
- Fixed seating expansions for non-professional clubs when requested by the league.
- Stopped player status getting set to backup from not needed in Spain and other leagues with B teams.
- Stopped human being able to set the captain and vice-captain to be the same person when replacing an old vice-captain.
- Fixed bug where captain set via news item would not be used in tactics and therefore in the match, caused by going to the tactics screen before confirming the news selection.
- Fixed bug where B teams in active leagues were sometimes not giving squad numbers out to enough players.
- Fixed problem with show recent attribute changes setting not being restored properly when moving between player screens
- Adjusted the physical attributes decline for older players to start earlier

Board Confidence
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- Got long-term expectations to update quicker once a team has effectively finished thier season (e.g team wins league with 10 games to go).
- Fixed long-term expectations confidence level getting set to zero if team gets to a higher division than it´s long-term expectations and stays in that same division the following season.
- Got the board to offer new contracts to managers around 2 months before the end of thier deals instead of the existing one month, if deals get to that stage.

Finances
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- Adjusted transfer income percentages for financially troubled clubs.
- Adjusted building costs of new stadiums and added possible grants for smaller clubs.
- Enhanced the chances of a takeover when club is bankrupt for a long period.
- Fixed amateur team not to pay wages to managers.
- Fixed new sponsorship news item in some cases showing £0 instead of the real value.
- Fixed support for "remaining wage budget" imported from the database at the start.
- Fixed support for custom stadium rental fees set in the database at the start.
- Fixed sponsorships that had no value set in database (fixes saved games at the first monthly financial update).
- Fixed start and end dates for starting loans read from the database.
- Fixed club transfer and wage budget given to a new hired manager to match the ones in the news.
- Fixed transfer budget update with season expectation news when no multiple expectations to choose.
- Prevented human users from exploiting the budget adjustments and season expectations to boost budgets excessively.
- Tuned Argentinean ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Australian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Brazilian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Colombian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Danish general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned French general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned German general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Italian general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Mexican ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Norwegian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Peruvian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Russian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tuned Uruguayan ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.
- Tweaked feeder club payments for smaller clubs and poorer nations.

Team Selection
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- Fixed issue regarding Gk´s being picked outfield.
- Given staff members greater flexibility when rating players for squad selections / teams.

Crashes
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- Fixed crash if user retires whilst on the Jobs screen.
- Fixed possible crash when user accepted job offers from other teams.

Database
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- Fixed a problem with Finnish weather, it doesn´t always rain now.

User Interface
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- Fixed an issue with skins in the user data folder picking up the wrong skin settings in some cases.
- Make available for reserves menu item was out of line with other options.
- The "Change User" menu would disappear in hot seat mode until the game was continued.
- Fixed bug where match split view panels would sometimes both default to Pitch view.
- Fixed some continue button text issues when a human picks 2 teams for matches at the same time.
- If a team scores more than 9 goals in a match, the match overview section no longer shows ".." for the goals.
- You can now view the knowledge sub-section of the scouting panel for teams without scouts
- Fixed bug where the match screen split view could show 2 pitch panels at the same time.
- Future squad selection rules which will apply to a team are now shown (greyed) on the team screen.
- Stopped situation where monthly calendar news would appear even if there were no important dates to be shown.
- Message saying a player or players couldn´t be selected due to travelling to be with ´their squads´ now references international squads.
- Draft allocations panel has now been moved of the Transfers panel on the team screen.
- Best Eleven screen remembers view when leaving the screen and returning.
- Fixed a bug in the squad selection rules error message. The list of invalid players was not getting displayed in full.
- Added status icon "PR" (Player Reaction) for player reacting to collective bonus decisions.
- Longest time at club record for a manager now shows correctly if the manager has been without a club for a longer time.
- Assistant manager team talk button is now hidden if a team does not have an assistant manager.
- Rows no longer disappear from the Award winners screen when players retire.
- Fixed bug where post match details would not appear properly sometimes when navigating away from the screen and returning.
- Portuguese players now get shown as being eligible to gain Brazilian nationality.
- Days to qualify for nationality do not increase for a country the player is not currently in.
- Fixed a bug where sometimes a cup draw would take place before the user had a chance to draw it themselves.
- Coach report screen remembers which coach you were using to get reports when moving between players.
- Fixed bug where user could make a sub during a penalty shootout.
- Fixed a problem where the user could attempt to create a new folder with illegal filename characters.
- When user changes the "Show Highlights In" setting in a match when a pitch is already showing, the new pitch panel will now appear properly.
- Fixed problem with continue game timeouts kicking in before the full time team talk has been given.
- Fixed problem that could cause new skins to not show up on the preferences screen.
- Fixed a problem with the injury duration description on the player profile screen for certain pre-game injuries.
- Players who gave gained a second nationality but remain in that nation no longer have an entry staying on their Days to Gain nationality panel.
- Added Tight Marking to view menu in the in-match tactics.
- Can no longer reject transfers that meet minimum fee release clauses via the transfer centre.
- Fixed a few club kit colours.
- Fixed a bug where the gk player instructions were getting replaced by an outfield players if a certain series of steps was carried out on the tactics screen.
- If no highlight is playing, the pitch section on the match screen is disabled.
- Next match button on match screen when viewing highlights now works correctly each time.
- Highlighted profile on team and player competition stats overview screen now uses stats for that competition not overall stats.
- When viewing highlights of a past match, the pitch action is now smoother.
- Changing "Closing Down" descriptions on player and team instruction panels.
- Updated horizontal scrollbars visible on Competition Tree view.
- Man of the Match and Injuries are now highlighted better on Match Overview and Match Stats sections.
- Fixed a rare problem where match screen would sometimes not allow users to go back into tactics after making a change.
- Fixed bug where coming out of tactics sometimes wasn´t returning the user back to full match highlight mode properly.
- Improved star graphics to make it easier to tell the difference between each level.
- When viewing scout reports for specific assignments it now remembers the assignment when returning back from looking at a player profile.

Media
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- Golden Boot news is now sent directly to the human if one of his players is in the top three.
- Monthly player award news uses the correct stadium name if the player moved clubs at the end of the month.
- Award voting reminder news now states the correct voting deadline for Final Reminders.
- Total transfer spending record news does not repeat when monthly installment payments are made.
- Ensured correct stadium is used when news item mentions next fixture in managerial landmark news e.g 1000th game in charge.
- Can no longer appeal ban for two yellow card sendings off.
- Lowered threshold for judging cup shocks.
- Fixed scout next opposition "Comment on Dangerman" button taking you to the interaction screen with no dangerman comments just before the match.

Coach Reports
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- Fixed issue where you would receive a news item stating that a player had progressed well and then the coaches wouldn´t comment on his progression in the coach report.
- Fixed issue when assistant highly rates virtually the entire team.

Contracts
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- Boosted the squad status expectations and wage requests of players involved in big money transfers.
- Put in code to help dissuade staff members from moving clubs shortly after signing a new contract.
- Players signed through a waiver draft do not sometimes reject contracts now.

International Management
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- Fixed news item saying player was left out of international fold when he is was injured and unable to be called up anyway.
- Fixed line saying players coaxed out of retirement were left out of previous squad.
- Fixed international manager attending the wrong game when a club had another match before the game that he elected to go and watch.
- Main, U21, U19 text on national pool now hyperlinks to the respective squads.
- National supporter spokespersons now have cities of birth.
- Ensure that, in the run-up to an international match, players for clubs who have fixtures re-arranged for the mid-week don´t travel until after that match.
- Stop human international teams organising friendlies against teams who don´t currently have a team enabled in the same age group. e.g. Bermuda U20s vs England U20s at game start date.
- Fixed message relating to player´s other nationality when user asks dual nationality player to play more first team football to gain place.
- Stopped pre-signed players (who are too young to play for a club side e.g. Alexander Pato) being prevented from playing for an international team.

Scouting
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- Ensure that the min asking price is going to round greater than 0 before commenting on the likely asking price.
- Ensured scout´s with high judging potential aren´t as accurate when rating players for potential.
- Fixed issue when changing a coach´s role to scout and he couldn´t perform assignments.

Transfers
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- Stopped AI teams attempting to re-new loans when the player is unable to go on-loan to them because of the team’s division loan rules.
- Players who have incorrect club join dates set in the database are now allowed to go on loan from Premier League teams.
- Ensured players without work permits will join work permit feeder clubs.
- Increased the threshold before chairman will accept bids over the head of the manager in charge.

Awards
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- Greek Club of the Year award is now given.
- Cypriots are no longer considered Foreign in Greek awards.
- Stripped out starting Award History´s in games started without real players.
- Fixed problem where if all your own players dominate an award shortlist you would get stuck on the voting screen.

Competitions
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- Stopped games been incorrectly called off due to international call-ups.
- Fixed clash between Champions League and South American World Cup qualifiers in 2009.
- Adjusted attendances for small clubs playing in cup competitions.
- Adjusted long term effects of fan days.
- Adjusted the attendances in intra-squad friendlies down severely.

International
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- Austria and Switzerland now play their group matches in their own country for Euro 2008.
- Denmark now play their home matches at NRGi Park until the 14th Oct 2007.

Argentina
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- Argentine Second Division History now recorded.

Australia
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- Improved teams Australian teams play in friendlies.
- Fixed conflicting squad restriction in 2014 and beyond.

Belgium
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- Stopped duplicate transfer round-up news item appearing for Belgian clubs.
- Belgian Cup Final is played at the Stade Roi Baudouin.
- Correct Second Division Playoff schedule is now used (all teams play each other home and away).
- 2nd to 5th position are used instead of the Period winners in the Second Division Playoff stage.

Brazil
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- Brazilian National Third Division history is now updated correctly.
- Added the Brazilian National First Division prize money.

Chile
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- Added correct transfer windows.

Czech Rep
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- Fixed promoted and relegated teams not matching up between the First and Second Division when a relegation position play-off is needed.

Denmark
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- Added 6 points deduction for Boldklubben Frem 1886.
- Saturday Premier Division game is now shown on TV.

Holland
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- Fixed some news item problems to do with the Dutch Premier Division playoffs.
- Fixed fixtures clashing with European fixtures.

England
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- Better TV game selection for FA Cup games.
- Mid-week games now kick-off at 1945.
- Updated the Setanta Shield prize money.
- FA Trophy Final is now televised.
- Johnstone Paint Trophy games now have games shown on TV.

Europe
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- Royal League has now been cancelled.
- The two legs of the later cup rounds do not both get played on the same day of the week.
- Champions Cup group stage draw can now be viewed.
- Changed date of Euro Cup group stage draw.
- Fixed Champions League group stage win/draw prize money.

Greece
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- Fixed back to back squad registration windows around the 17th August.

Hong Kong
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- Fixed user being able to sign more than 12 foreigners in Hong Kong First Division.
- Hong Kong First Division Reserve matches played in neutral stadiums of 4,000 or less.

Hungary
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- Fixed Hungarian League Cup winners not appearing in competition history.

Indonesia
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- Contract end dates are now set as 31st October.

Israel
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- Squad numbers now used in all competitions.
- 5 foreign players can now start in a Israeli Cup match.

Italy
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- Added this years Italian Serie C Cup teams.
- Applied -1 points deduction to 3 Serie C2 teams.
- Serie A teams that have their match postponed to Sunday should be playing at 3pm not 4pm.

Malaysia
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- Fixed foreign player rules for some competitions.

Mexico
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- Fixed bug where teams would sometimes get a Mexican First Division title added to their achievements for winning the playoff stage.

Norway
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- Added correct squad selection rules for the Norwegian Premier and First Division.
- All clubs in Premier and First division get under-soil heating.

Peru
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- Two teams are now relegated from the Peruvian First Division.

Poland
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- Cancelled the 10 points deduction applied to Polish Second Division side Odra Opole.

Portugal
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- First three rounds of the League Cup now use the correct seedings.
- Updated TV dates and times for the Portuguese top two divisions.

Scotland
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- Trialists can no longer play in cup games.
- Football League match day squads can only contain 2 trialists.
- Fixtures are now generated for the second season in all Scottish leagues.
- Fixed a bug where the league was sometimes not sorted before the split was introduced.

Singapore
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- Fixed Singaporean League Cup record not being written in competition history.
- Add Random draws for Singapore Cup and Singaporean League Cup.
- Change of transfer windows for Singaporean League.
- U18 league matches now played at neutral stadiums with 1500 or less capacity.
- Singapore U18 & U17 team cannot sign foreign players.

South America
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- Teams from the same nation play against each other in the Copa Sudamericana Semi Final stage.
- Uruguayan teams now seeded correctly in the Copa Libertadores.
- South American Continental Cups now get correct referees for matches.

Spain
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- Implemented Cotonou Agreement for Spanish league - players from 79 ACP (African, Caribbean and Pacific states) countries no longer considered non-EU.
- Fixed bug where some players were not getting minimum fee release clauses.

Sweden
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- Pre-season no long starts on 24th December for teams involved in the Royal League.
- Changed the teams which move divisions when the game is started in 2008.

United States
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- Foreign developmental players do not count towards the wage cap.
- Fixed bug where squad selection rules for certain MLS teams were not showing the correct maximum values at all times.
- Correct 2007 fixtures added.
- Allowed squad numbers up to 99.
- MLS teams can no longer sign foreign players from the PDL before they reach 22 or enter a draft.
- Fixed a problem with the American player rule for Toronto. Some players were being wrongly classified as Americans.
- MLS Rising Stars team is now filled with American players only.
- Players on free transfer with MLS rights have to be traded instead of being approached directly.
- Changed stage names of MLS conference playoffs.
- Virtual players now ask for developmental contracts by default.
- Improved selection of players from a draft. Teams make fewer passes.
- Updated maximum allowed wage $325,000 p/a outside of Designated Players.
- Fixed wrong teams in CONCACAF Champions Cup.
- Toronto foreigners now gain Canadian nationality not American if they stay for enough years.
- Fixed bug which was converting future draft allocations offered in transfers to 6th pick draft allocations.
- Toronto now get Canadian nationality youth players instead of American.

Assets
======

England
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- Fixed Marvin Elliot / Marvin Williams’s picture mix up.
- Added Bath City badge.
- Added Solihull Moors badge.

Spain
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- Added Athletic Bilbao player pictures.
- Added Atletico Madrid player pictures.
- Added Deportivo player pictures.
- Added Espanyol player pictures.
- Added Levante player pictures.
- Added Osasuna player pictures.
- Added Racing Santander player pictures.
- Added Real Betis player pictures.
- Added Real Mallorca player pictures.
- Added Real Murcia player pictures.
- Added Real Valladolid player pictures.
- Added Recreativo player pictures.

Match Engine Version History
============================

- Fixed bug where the match was treating the JTP North/South finals as the main final itself.
- When an injured player is also sent off, the game won´t force the human manager to replace him.

Match v639
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- Re-worked marking and closing down to address conflict between the two - defenders should now close down better when appropriate.
- Further improved team reactions to cleared set pieces.
- Reduced delay between foul and whistle.
- But...allowed more advantages when prudent.
- Improved set piece positioning for free kicks and some throws.
- Fixed keeper occasionally kicking off new match period.
- Fixed another example of player kicking off to no-one.
- AI teams now add "back arrow" to def mid position for one MC if needed.
- AI teams a little more reactive to opposition pace when setting D-line.
- Small tweak to ease overcautious AI use of mentality slider occasionally.
- Made players take longer to accelerate all the way to full speed.
- Made blatant offside’s get called a little quicker.
- Enhanced effect on flair of "creative freedom" slider slightly.
- Fixed bug that would stop full back overlapping run prematurely.
- Improved smoothness of dribbling slightly.
- Players now look to run into space with ball better.
- Stopped a few unrealistic examples of poor first touch.
- Allowed players to take more first time shots when appropriate eg rebounds.
- Improved attacking positioning for certain formations that use "side arrows" on attacking midfielders.
- Improved attacking position of central "in hole" player.
- Stopped certain illogical forward runs being made from deep.
- Defenders put tackles/clearances in more appropriately.
- Biased aerial challenges slightly more towards those with higher jumping.
- Slightly less fouls when jumping for the ball.
- Reduced keeper effectiveness on close in shots slightly.
- Low team blend now has more effect on mental attributes.
- Allow more quick free kicks to be taken.
- Improved ball receiver AI slightly.
- Defenders caught wrong side of ball try to get back faster.
- Fixed defenders pushing up to edge of area when should be dealing with ball player.
- Improved player ability to deflect shots/crosses.
- Fixed defenders coming across and heading ball that team mate had covered.
- Tweaked decision making for ball player.
- Improved finishing for "bread and butter" chances.
- Improved accuracy of "bread and butter" passes.
- Further tweak to keeper kicking distance.
- Headers from descending balls now more likely to be looping in nature.
- Improved kicked clearance direction from defenders.
- Improved "subdued" goal celebration where scorer used to move a bit then stop still.
- Ball shadow slightly less pronounced in FM.

Match v640
==========
- Improved referee ability to try to "play the advantage".
- Fixed anomaly causing further problems with kick offs.
- Fixed AI subs when keeper sent off that could cause 2 goalies to be present.
- Another tweak to AI mentality setting.
- Made AI teams try to exploit 3 at the back without wingbacks by getting ball wide more.
- Improved positions at goal kicks.
- Improved corners sent to player lurking outside area.
- Improved use of channels to pass into and move into.
- Made first touch a little more realistic.
- Made players even more willing to run with ball into space when possible.
- And more likely to shoot in good positions.
- And more likely to cross in good positions.
- And more likely to turn before hoofing ball clear when necessary.
- Power shots more likely to go too high.
- Improved player perception of potential interceptions on pass.
- Improved direction of "flick on" headers.
- Improved code that decides whether player should pass ball around and keep possession based on directness, time wasting etc.
- Made "tackle clearances" more realistic in terms of distance and direction.
- Fixed anomaly that allowed potential clearance towards own goal when very close to it.
- Reduced instances of players dribbling ball out of play.
- Keepers more likely to follow distribution instructions.
- Keepers more effective on long shots.
- Fixed rare occurrence of keeper not taking up position for penalty kick.
- Improve defender marking on ball player running at pace with ball.
- Made players less likely to leave tactical shape to mark opponents when ball and player not in danger area.

Match v641
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- Fixed crash that occurs after player about to kick off gets a red card.

Match v642
==========
- Made sure free kick isn’t called back after advantage has been played for a sensible amount of time.
- Fix to stop players continuing to swap when option removed in tactical change during match.
- Fixed bug where slight injury isn’t reported when watching match in "commentary only" ( FM only ).
- Improved variety of assistant manager team talk suggestions.
- Made sure offside always called when player shoots for goal and has team mate standing well offside in ball path.
- Slight tweak to player match ratings to give them more range.
- Improved player run with ball AI.
- Improved full backs overlapping, and made their teammates more likely to try to pass to them.
- Further change to closing down code, as initial fix wasn’t quite coded correctly.
- Made players clear ball quicker under real pressure.
- Fixed bug where defenders might pass up obvious interception opportunities.
- Stopped players moving back into onside positions at unrealistically fast speed.
- Reduced pointless off ball runs that just made it harder for team mates.
- Fixed anomaly from pass vs interceptions decision making in 640.

Match v643
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- Fixed central defenders sometimes using closing down rather than marking against pace.
- Stopped AI managers playing too negatively when losing due to their sitting back attribute.
- Fixed interceptions not being recorded properly in match stats.
- Made defenders clear ball when under pressure in own area and ball bouncing at awkward height.
- Improved player decisions on when to tackle when up against player running with ball.
- Improved short throw ins slightly in terms of direction and speed.
- Made players a little more willing to shoot first time.

Match v644
==========
- Fixed match score divergence.

Match v645
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- Fixed advantage not being always played when fouled player gets clear of his assailant.
- Further tweak to closing down logic, to make it slightly more accurate vs slider descriptions.
- Made players work harder to get back to opponents who have gone beyond them.
- Fixed extremes of players not reacting for ages to ongoing play.
- Tweaked player choice of opponent to mark to include tactical position more.
- Improved direction of facing for defenders marking attackers in open play.
- Fixed bug in defensive line pushing to edge of area for team defending left end of pitch.
- Improved direction of defender who is chasing down attacker who is running with ball and has got ahead of him.
- Slight improvements to player’s decisions on whether to clear ball under pressure.
- Tweaked up pass accuracy a bit, especially when under no pressure.
- Made lesser players limit pace on pass to increase accuracy ( subject to decisions test ).
- Changed pass risk assessment to reflect mentality setting and flair a little more.
- Less hoofs up field to no-one when under no pressure, unless time wasting.
- Made players cross more willingly and also earlier when possible depending on instructions.
- More shots when in obvious good positions.
- Players with decent decision making less likely to dribble into trouble.
- Players more likely to get ball onto best foot.
- Improved first touch a little.
- Fixed bug where player sometimes moves really slowly with ball for ages.
- Made it harder to cut back ball dramatically when running down wing at pace.
- Improved logic of bias towards pass focus instruction when assessing passes.
- Improved off ball movement slightly.
- Stopped target men moving into channel so often when getting long balls to head.
- Players come to loose balls more aggressively, and try to intercept earlier in own danger zone.
- Attacking players also more likely to follow up on shots.
- Made keepers less likely to let ball go narrowly wide of post, unless extreme time wasting.
- Improved direction of keeper kicking.
- Less fouls when going for headers.
- Further tweak to make more early shots when under pressure or in good position.
- Made some headers on goal slightly less powerful.
- Stopped first time shots coming in from ridiculous positions.
- Made players come shorter at throws when thrower struggling for options.
- When player is selected to come to collect from keeper he comes deeper.
- Stopped one man walls on free kicks taken by keeper in deep position.
- Fixed possibility of play getting stuck when player with ball goes down injured.
- Tweaked player ratings back halfway towards pre v642 levels.

Match v646
==========
- Reduced shot accuracy slightly.
- Stopped players dropping deep to mark opponents instead of holding defensive line for an easy offside.
- Fixed bug where player may not react to short pass from keeper.
- Reduced players dallying on ball when being closed down.
- Made keepers more likely to clear lines from back passes.
- Players get back to kick off position quicker after celebrating goal.

Match v647
==========
- Assistant managers now always give a team talk recommendation when asked.
- AI now take comebacks from 2 or 3 down into account when deciding team talks.
- Players also take comebacks into account when reacting to team talks.
- Stopped centre halves getting dragged out of position too easily when NOT first man behind ball.
- Slight reduction on lengths of goal kicks.
- Keepers now more willing to come to collect such long balls into their own area.
- Further improved defender direction facing when marking non ball player.
- Fixed issue with defenders dithering over whether to continue marking player with ball.
- Further fix re confusion between closing down ball player and marking him from a strategic position.
- Fixed further instance of players taking ridiculous first time shots.
- Fixed rare occurrence of players controlling ball and moving a few yards with it stuck to their foot.
- Fixed bug where player who wins aerial challenge always recovers quicker than the player who lost out.
- Fixed bug where defenders would occasionally get skinned by opponent due to problem in code rather than lack of ability.
- Fixed bug where keepers occasionally miss saves for no reason.
- Tweaked number of shots going over bar.

Match v648
==========
- Fixed bug where assistant team talk suggestions may be illogical after a win.

Match v649
==========
- Fixed rare bug where keeper may needlessly miss opportunity to save shot.
- Improved decision between pass and run depending on player instruction, player tendency and situation.
- Made wide players get into the box quicker when ball on opposite side.
- Tweaked average ratings for attacking wide men.
- Stopped distribution defender coming way too deep to pick up ball at goal kicks.
- Put a harsher work rate test on tracking back to challenge player already under pressure.
- Fixed bug where defenders take up identical positions when "doubling up" on attacker.
- Off ball runs from behind ball now done at higher speed.
- Fixed unrealistically slow kicked clearances.
- Fixed advantage being played then play called back a few seconds later.
- Fixed bug where one player kicks off with no team mate next to him.
- Slightly toned down effect on ball physics of muddy/wet pitches.

Dejligt med en oversigt!  O0

Modstandernes målmænd står altid fremragende når jeg møder dem.  >:( Jeg har lige tabt 1-0 til M'boro og Mark Schwarzer redde 15 skud og sluttede med en karakter på 9.  >:( Det er en ret irriterende fejl der stadig ikke er rettet.

Dette kan man vist kalde en fejl af de større (patch er installeret):

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Derudover har jeg også oplevet i samme sæson, at en spiller jeg købte mellem de 2 CL-kvalkampe i 3. kvalifikationsrunde kunne vælges til returkampen...

Har et problem! : Når jeg spiller så crasher mit fm HVER gang når der er gået godt 10 min.
Jeg har installeret den nye patch (der står i hvert fald 8.0.1) så det virker lidt underligt...
Nogle der vil forklare hvad jeg skal gøre?

Please.

Tak

:)

Nogle der kan komme med et svar :)

Øøh nu lyder jeg nok som en komplet spasser men hvor skal Patchen instaleres

Well, det er da meget nærliggende at tro, men jeg vil nu give ham ret i, at man meget ofte får fornemmelsen af, at modstandernes sejr er bestemt på forhånd. Jeg kan snart ikke tælle det antal gange modstanderholdets angriber har scoret i overtiden!

PS: Og jeg "piver" ikke, fordi det ikke går godt for mig i mit spil, eller fordi min taktik ikke virker. Faktisk ligger jeg nr. 1 i Championship med Sheff Utd.

Patchen skal ikke installeres.. du downloader den som .exe fil, og så kører du den bare.. Den skulle gerne selv finde din fm.exe, og så opdaterer den når du trykker på knappen :)

@ mfjr: Har du prøvet at reinstalle?

Anyone? Der bliver ingen blog fra min side før jeg har fået et svar  ::)

Er det ulovligt at bruge NOCD-crack? Synes nemlig det er irriterende at skulle bruge cd'en hver gang jeg skal starte op.
Hvis det er lovligt, er der så kommet en til patchen?

Det er ulovligt ja.  >:D

Ja, det har jeg gjort, og spillet kører fint... Og ændringerne er også med i spillet.. i hvert fald dem jeg har bemærket ;)

Cool nok

min patch virker ikke. så når skal opdaterer efter at have fundet fm.exe eller sådan noget. så gider den ikke? jeg har vista og bruger den vi har her på siden i dowloads. please hjælp

der står noget med at jeg skal reeinstalle er det det samme som afinstallerer og så geninstallerer

Syntes godt nok at det er en dårlig patch.. det kørte godt med greve og sådan.. så installere jeg patchen.. bum.. nu er sæsonen slut og jeg er rykket ned :( øv.. medieprognosen satte mig på en 4. plads.. øv øv øv.. (jeg er greve... i 2018 :(  )

du har da helt ret i at det er patchens skyld at det ikke går godt for dig :/

haha... ja... jeg skal jo skyde skylden på et eller andet :P hehe.. arjh.. tror det har lidt med den at gøre.. nogle af fejlene må jo have hjulpet mig mod de andre sas liga hold :D hehe.. :D men i sidste ende self. min egen fejl :D det var ment lidt som sjov :)

Har et problem med patchen. Ved ikke hvorfor den siger det .

Håber i kan hjælpe mig . O0


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Du skal gå ud af FM ;)

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Sådan , tak for det mester  O0

Patchen virker ikke til min MAC - nogen som ved eller kan hjælpe på  hvornår der  kommer en MAC udgave?

Hvor skal man ligge den nye patch og skal den udpakkes?

Er der en venlig sjæl, der lige kan linke til en side, hvor man kan hente den patch 8.0.1... Kan ikke få den på sigames til at virke..

http://www.fmfreaks.dk/index.php?action=download;gid=1;id=7

Hej,
Ny bruger...
Vil nogen forklare trin for trin hvor/hvordan jeg downloader og installere patchen til FM08 ???
Har prøvet uden det virkede.

nogen der kender til en no-cd patch til fm 08.0.1

bum bum bum.

det taler vi ikke om her på forum.
det er ulovligt

du skal bare downloade den, og så åbner du den. den finder automatisk den mappe som dit fm ligger i, så du skal bare trykke installer, og så fungerer det

Nej, ingen undtagelser.
Det er ulovligt, og vi opfordrer ikke folk til at begå ulovligheder.